Dr. Kyle Swan, Associate Professor of Philosophy and Director of the Center for Practical and Professional Ethics at Cal State Sacramento chats with students at the Honors LLC. He discusses themes related to John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Social Contract Theory, covenants, the state of nature, and social ethics. Forgive the imperfect sound, as during COVID we are always in suboptimal conditions for recording, though we are grateful for the chance to have limited, socially-distanced conversations like this on campus.